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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby philo » 08 Jan 2010 13:37

Também sou um admirador do Kerouac e por coincidência também possuo esses 3 livros o On The Road é sem duvida o mais marcante, existem livros que te transfiguram, que abalam o nosso conformismo e o Pela estrada fora é um deles, é um livro libertador e iconoclasta, um livro transcendental. Aventura, drogas, jazz, sexo e sobretudo a coragem de experimentar são os elementos constroem o magnetismo do livro, um gajo desespera por saltar para dentro do livro e acompanhar aqueles gajos na sua viagens pelos Estados Unidos, dá vontade de deixar o conforto desta vida monótona e segura e enveredar pelo perigo de viver, realmente viver e no Pela estrada fora existe uma vida intensa e profética.

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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby RuiSilva » 08 Jan 2010 21:56

Li "on the road" quando tinha 17 anos e fui um pouco influenciado pelo livro.
Aquelas personagens do livro eram mirabolantes. Se bem me lembro, o mais doido era Dean Moriarte (penso que era esse o nome).
Como já lá vão uma série de anos, "aquilo" passou-me. :mrgreen:
Mas foi um marco na minha juventude inquieta. :cheers:

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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby sigbjorntrumbaugh » 12 Jan 2010 20:26

Bem, estava de passagem por este tópico, a ver o que é que se pensava deste velho cannuck e..., pensei em deixar uma dica a quem gosta dele; isto para o caso de ainda não o saberem, está claro. Há um documentário muito bom do Kerouac intitulado "What happened to Jack Kerouack?". Para os seus fãs é um must...portanto, aqui fica o conselho: vejam-no__ pois vale muito a pena.

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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby Samwise » 18 Jan 2011 11:50

A propósito do "On the Road" (que a Gaminha anda a ler), fica aqui uma curiosidade: o Kerouac desejou, a certa altura, que Marlon Brando se interessasse pelo livro a ponto de o adaptar ao cinema. Até lhe escreveu uma carta:

Dear Marlon

I’m praying that you’ll buy ON THE ROAD and make a movie of it. Don’t worry about the structure, I know to compress and re-arrange the plot a bit to give perfectly acceptable movie-type structure: making it into one all-inclusive trip instead of the several voyages coast-to-coast in the book, one vast round trip from New York to Denver to Frisco to Mexico to New Orleans to New York again. I visualise the beautiful shots could be made with the camera on the front seat of the car showing the road (day and night) unwinding into the windshield, as Sal and Dean yak. I wanted you to play the part because Dean (as you know) is no dopey hotrodder but a real intelligent (in fact Jesuit) Irishman. You play Dean and I’ll play Sal (Warner Bros. mentioned I play Sal) and I’ll show you how Dean acts in real life, you couldn’t possibly imagine it without seeing a good imitation. Fact, we can go visit him in Frisco, or have him come down to L.A. still a real frantic cat but nowadays settled down with his final wife saying the Lord’s Prayer with his kiddies at night…as you’ll seen when you read the play BEAT GENERATION. All I want out of this is to able to establish myself and my mother a trust fund for life, so I can really go roaming around the world writing about Japan, India, France etc. …I want to be free to write what comes out of my head & free to feed my buddies when they’re hungry & not worry about my mother.

Incidentally, my next novel is THE SUBTERRANEANS coming out in N.Y. next March and is about a love affair between a white guy and a colored girl and very hep story. Some of the characters in it you know in the village (Stanley Gould etc.) It easily could be turned into a play, easier than ON THE ROAD.

What I wanta do is re-do the theater and the cinema in America, give it a spontaneous dash, remove pre-conceptions of “situation” and let people rave on as they do in real life. That’s what the play is: no plot in particular, no “meaning” in particular, just the way people are. Everything I write I do in the spirit where I imagine myself an Angel returned to the earth seeing it with sad eyes as it is. I know you approve of these ideas, & incidentally the new Frank Sinatra show is based on “spontaneous” too, which is the only way to come on anyway, whether in show business or life. The French movies of the 30′s are still far superior to ours because the French really let their actors come on and the writers didn’t quibble with some preconceived notion of how intelligent the movie audience is, the talked soul from soul and everybody understood at once. I want to make great French Movies in America, finally, when I’m rich…American Theater & Cinema at present is an outmoded Dinosaur that ain’t mutated along with the best in American Literature

If you really want to go ahead, make arrangements to see me in New York when you next come, or if you’re going to Florida here I am, but what we should do is talk about this because I prophesy that it’s going to be the beginning of something real great. I’m bored nowadays and I’m looking around for something to do in the void, anyway—writing novels is getting too easy, same with plays, I wrote the play in 24 hours.

Come on now Marlon, put up your dukes and write!

Sincerely, later,

(Signed, ‘Jack Kerouac’)


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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby Gaminha » 18 Jan 2011 13:09

Samwise wrote:A propósito do "On the Road" (que a Gaminha anda a ler), fica aqui uma curiosidade: o Kerouac desejou, a certa altura, que Marlon Brando se interessasse pelo livro a ponto de o adaptar ao cinema.


Comecei a ler muito devagarinho... :P

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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby npipas » 25 Jan 2011 23:19

Só venho lançar um pouco de veneno :devil: O Kerouac e o seu tão "falado" "On The Road", foi uma das minhas maiores desilusões literárias de sempre...
Sempre ouvi falar bem deste livro, aliás conheço pessoas que quando falavam do "On The Road", pareciam apóstolos a falar da Bíblia, como se não houvesse nada melhor no mundo, talvez por isso quando comecei a ler as minhas expectativas eram tantas que quando "cai na realidade", fiquei muito desiludido, nem as passagens sobre o Jazz (genero musical pelo qual eu sou bastante aficionado), me fizeram gostar do livro.
Resumidamente (e para mim) este livro é apenas a história de um "junkie" que como não tem (vontade), nada que fazer, decide andar "por aí" a passear pelos U.S.A. a embebedar-se, a "apanhar umas pedradas" e fazer filhos :blink:
Pipas :cheers:

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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby amulhercerta » 12 Jun 2013 09:43

npipas wrote:Só venho lançar um pouco de veneno :devil: O Kerouac e o seu tão "falado" "On The Road", foi uma das minhas maiores desilusões literárias de sempre...
Sempre ouvi falar bem deste livro, aliás conheço pessoas que quando falavam do "On The Road", pareciam apóstolos a falar da Bíblia, como se não houvesse nada melhor no mundo, talvez por isso quando comecei a ler as minhas expectativas eram tantas que quando "cai na realidade", fiquei muito desiludido, nem as passagens sobre o Jazz (genero musical pelo qual eu sou bastante aficionado), me fizeram gostar do livro.
Resumidamente (e para mim) este livro é apenas a história de um "junkie" que como não tem (vontade), nada que fazer, decide andar "por aí" a passear pelos U.S.A. a embebedar-se, a "apanhar umas pedradas" e fazer filhos :blink:
Pipas :cheers:



Eu sou um apóstolo a falar da Bíblia. Esse livro é tudo. Kerouac é Deus.

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Re: Jack Kerouac

Postby Forbidden » 12 Jun 2013 12:14

Samwise wrote:A propósito do "On the Road" (que a Gaminha anda a ler), fica aqui uma curiosidade: o Kerouac desejou, a certa altura, que Marlon Brando se interessasse pelo livro a ponto de o adaptar ao cinema. Até lhe escreveu uma carta:

Dear Marlon

I’m praying that you’ll buy ON THE ROAD and make a movie of it. Don’t worry about the structure, I know to compress and re-arrange the plot a bit to give perfectly acceptable movie-type structure: making it into one all-inclusive trip instead of the several voyages coast-to-coast in the book, one vast round trip from New York to Denver to Frisco to Mexico to New Orleans to New York again. I visualise the beautiful shots could be made with the camera on the front seat of the car showing the road (day and night) unwinding into the windshield, as Sal and Dean yak. I wanted you to play the part because Dean (as you know) is no dopey hotrodder but a real intelligent (in fact Jesuit) Irishman. You play Dean and I’ll play Sal (Warner Bros. mentioned I play Sal) and I’ll show you how Dean acts in real life, you couldn’t possibly imagine it without seeing a good imitation. Fact, we can go visit him in Frisco, or have him come down to L.A. still a real frantic cat but nowadays settled down with his final wife saying the Lord’s Prayer with his kiddies at night…as you’ll seen when you read the play BEAT GENERATION. All I want out of this is to able to establish myself and my mother a trust fund for life, so I can really go roaming around the world writing about Japan, India, France etc. …I want to be free to write what comes out of my head & free to feed my buddies when they’re hungry & not worry about my mother.

Incidentally, my next novel is THE SUBTERRANEANS coming out in N.Y. next March and is about a love affair between a white guy and a colored girl and very hep story. Some of the characters in it you know in the village (Stanley Gould etc.) It easily could be turned into a play, easier than ON THE ROAD.

What I wanta do is re-do the theater and the cinema in America, give it a spontaneous dash, remove pre-conceptions of “situation” and let people rave on as they do in real life. That’s what the play is: no plot in particular, no “meaning” in particular, just the way people are. Everything I write I do in the spirit where I imagine myself an Angel returned to the earth seeing it with sad eyes as it is. I know you approve of these ideas, & incidentally the new Frank Sinatra show is based on “spontaneous” too, which is the only way to come on anyway, whether in show business or life. The French movies of the 30′s are still far superior to ours because the French really let their actors come on and the writers didn’t quibble with some preconceived notion of how intelligent the movie audience is, the talked soul from soul and everybody understood at once. I want to make great French Movies in America, finally, when I’m rich…American Theater & Cinema at present is an outmoded Dinosaur that ain’t mutated along with the best in American Literature

If you really want to go ahead, make arrangements to see me in New York when you next come, or if you’re going to Florida here I am, but what we should do is talk about this because I prophesy that it’s going to be the beginning of something real great. I’m bored nowadays and I’m looking around for something to do in the void, anyway—writing novels is getting too easy, same with plays, I wrote the play in 24 hours.

Come on now Marlon, put up your dukes and write!

Sincerely, later,

(Signed, ‘Jack Kerouac’)


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